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- Posted: 5:57pm EDT, Sun May 25/86, imported: 7:40pm EDT, Sun May 25/86
- Subject: Delphi Mac Digest V2 #20
- To: Peter_Johnston@UQV-MTS, MacTechnics User Group, John Dorsey, Gavin
- Eadie, Abraham Vanderspek
- From: SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU
-
- Delphi Mac Digest Sunday, 25 May 1986 Volume 2 : Issue 20
-
- Today's Topics:
- Re: MIDI, SIGs, et al.
- RE: Usenet Mac Digest V2 #39 (Re: Msg 8301)
- Apple SCSI
- RE: getting screen dumps with menus (Re: Msg 8258)
- 128K ROM/keypad bug
- RE: Large screen display (Re: Msg 8292)
- Note to Apple Developers
- MacServe...
- Jonathon report
- RE: MacDraw 1.9 patches (Re: Msg 8198)
- Re: HELP! with HyperMac+
- re: Interrupt switch problems on the Mac
- RE: re: Interrupt switch problems on the (Re: Msg 8389)
- Re: How does one make PICT resources?
- Re: How does one make PICT resources?
- List Manager
- PCB Layout Software
- Hayden Software bought
- Maybe this was asked on Usenet or Info-Mac
- Purging HFS Desktop
- RE: Purging HFS Desktop (Re: Msg 8460)
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: BMUG (8301)
- Subject: Re: MIDI, SIGs, et al.
- Date: 18-MAY 17:07 MUGS Online
-
- To: Mike Wirth <mcw@lll-crg.ARPA>
-
- Mike -
- Thanks for the plug! I'm not sure which article you mean, one of the cables
- notes articles? That type of thing appeared in both the Fall '85 and ZSpring
- '85 BMUG Newsletters. For people interested, BMUG sells back issues of its
- NL's for $18 each, including a disk.
-
- BMUG now has a MIDI SIG, "Computer Music Users Group" (CMUG), that
- meets occasional Saturdays. For moe information, contact Tony King,
- who runs the SIG, (415) 524-8032, or BMUG, (415) 849-HELP
- [msg:849-9114].
-
- -- Raines Cohen
- BMUG Operations Mgr
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MACINTOUCH (8302)
- Subject: RE: Usenet Mac Digest V2 #39 (Re: Msg 8301)
- Date: 18-MAY 17:27 MUGS Online
-
- to: dad@mit-vax.UUCP (David Duff)
-
- I have had similar experiences with Boston-area computer dealers. The old
- -joke
- is "What's the difference between a used car salesman and a computer salesman?
- The used car guy _knows_ when he's lying to ya'" Anyway, there are a few
- reasonable salesmen in the area. You can't find them by going to a specific
- dealer, as most dealers I've encountered have both bad and good salesmen. I'm
- currently dealing with Neil Greco at Sherman Howe in Newton, who has been
- relative open-minded and helpful. I think it's useful to get a bunch of
- knowledgable Mac people going to the same reasonable salesman, as he/she can
- then get a better feeling for what our particular type of customer needs and
- wants -- and can offer. Good luck. - Ric Ford
-
-
- to: n9fik@pur-ee.UUCP (Mike Rosenberg)
-
- I suggest calling Lou Rosenblum at 617-484-9005. He's interested in and very
- knowledgable about the problems of typesetting and editing European and Asian
- languages on the Mac.
-
- Ric Ford
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MACINTOUCH (8297)
- Subject: Apple SCSI
- Date: 18-MAY 15:25 Hardware & Peripherals
-
- Rumors are flying that an SCSI hard disk from Apple is not far off.
- It's supposed to be larger than the HD20, but we still haven't heard
- anything about backup software or tape... Anyone else got good info
- on it?
-
- Ric
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: BMUG (8298)
- Subject: RE: getting screen dumps with menus (Re: Msg 8258)
- Date: 18-MAY 16:44 Bugs & Features
-
- Also, keep in mind that the Camera DA stops the mac, WHATEVER it's doing,
- INCLUDING a DISK WRITE! Even in the MIDDLE of a disk write. Risky business.
- -- Raines/BMUG
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MACINTOUCH (8307)
- Subject: 128K ROM/keypad bug
- Date: 18-MAY 21:31 Mousing Around
-
- I just ran across a Usenet message that corresponded to a bug I'm
- -experiencing.
-
- To ron@aicchi.UUCP (Ron Spizzirri):
-
- Ron,
-
- I experienced the same bug with the keypad/keyboard on my Mac 512K
- after upgrading to the 128K ROMs. Now, after booting, the first
- character I type is ignored if it's typed on the keyboard. If I type
- the first character from the optional keypad instead, it goes into
- auto-repeat mode. Looks like a bug in the new ROMs in combination
- with the old keyboard/keypad.
-
- Ric Ford
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: INKMAN (8357)
- Subject: RE: Large screen display (Re: Msg 8292)
- Date: 20-MAY 14:14 Hardware & Peripherals
-
- OK the company is Micro graphic Images 20954 Osborn ST. Canoga Park,
- CA 91304 phone (818) 407-0571. Ok lets clear the screen the
- modification comes with a 20" custom display it gives a full 1000x1000
- resolution at the same pixil size as the regular mac scre screen. it
- also has the ability to output to a projector at that ratio or a
- standard vidio (VHS standard VHS..BATA home TV monitor ratio .. this
- is a software modifiaction so there is a screen enlargement in the
- final result.. This company gives a co-processor (6881) and hard
- drive(20 meg) and memory upgrade .. the Hyperdrive of the west coast
- with more on the board.. hope this helps open to more...
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: PEABO (8361)
- Subject: Note to Apple Developers
- Date: 20-MAY 19:59 Programming
-
- According to a recent letter from Apple, the Software Supplements are being
- renamed to avoid confusion. Instead of naming them "Month Year Software
- Supplement", the new terminology will be "Volume N Issue M". The following
- table shows the corresponding names:
-
- May 1985 Volume I Issue 1
- December 1985 (two shipments) Volume I Issue 2
- March 1986 (not released yet) Volume I Issue 3
-
- Developer Tech Support also has issued the following warnings about the files
- that were part of Volume I Issue 2:
-
- System 3.1.1 was issued with an Installer set up for 3.1, so the Installer
- doesn't work (this has been widely known for some time).
-
- Font/DA Mover 3.1 is not compatible with the combination of 128K ROM
- and a System of release level less than 3.1; it can cause damage to
- the System file if used in that configuration, so be sure to use 3.1
- or higher System release.
-
- peter
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MUSICWORKS (8372)
- Subject: MacServe...
- Date: 21-MAY 20:34 Macintosh In Fact
-
- I have received and tried Macserve at our store and I would like to give my
- opinion about this product and some reviews about it
-
- Macserve comes serialized (more on this later) You can use just about
- on any Hardisk including apple HD20 some hardisk that I've tried are
- Lodown , Aplle HD 20, and HyperDrive 20 You can as ussual hook up ,
- upto 32 devices on the network (Appletalk limitation) one or more
- Host/Server can be configured ! but each one server (not the node
- user) has to have their own Master ( because they are serialized) they
- will not work if two server with the same serial # are online.
- Installing it it's pretty easy just run the Mac serve Install program
- from the master and select the destination valume, once you do that.
- the server can create partition from the Hardisk, and only this way
- that you can share the partition with other users, (Hyperdrive Drawers
- can not be shared, unlike Tops) The first time you create the
- partition with the Manager , it will be a MFS Volume, but you can
- change them to HFS by Erasing the volume on the finder ! Note that
- you have to create a boot disk for every Netuser that's going to be
- sharing the Network, you probably will find a little difficulty in the
- 400K Drives, if you are going to use them with laserwriter, because
- the system can be really BIG, (with all the laserwriter fonts,Driver,
- etc...) it might not be enough... 800 K Disks are OK, so 512K's that
- isn't upgraded, has to have a really a squeezed out system.
-
- Once everything is setup, the Host Server can released the partitions
- to be used by other users, once a user grab(Make private) a volume the
- other user can not have access to it, untill that user released it. if
- a partition is shared everybody can have Read Access but the Parttion
- is Locked (write Protected) this is a problem for some application
- like MacPaint (MacPaint will not work on a locked disk)
-
- Speed: on a Apple HD20 the speed is very slow (we all know) when it get to
- -more
- than 2/3 users than it became unbearably slow. on a Hyperdrive is reasonable 3
- users can use them together with a little delay in accessing the drive. on the
- LoDown is better.
-
- I like MacServe although I'd like to see some improvements, like you can share
- the Non Partition Volume (Like TOPS) etc.. Probably the most limitation is
- appletalk's speed, but for the price, and if speed is not a problem the
- -program
- is useful !
-
- Jundi
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MOUSEKETEER (8373)
- Subject: Jonathon report
- Date: 21-MAY 20:37 Hardware & Peripherals
-
- Information from May 19, 1986 issue Computer+Software News:
-
- (headline like) Apple Begins Manufacturing Johnathon
-
- Actually the article goes more in depth concerning the possibility of
- Apple selling the IIe and IIc through mass-market merchandisers (read
- Toys R Us, etc.) Still, it give some basic information about the
- Johnathan (while leaving out some of the best items....
-
- According to the article, Apple has just started production on the new Mac,
- which features 68020 and a 68881 co-processor, up to 4 meg RAM, DS internal
- drive, black & white screen (no size mentioned!). Also, folks "close to
- -Apple"
- said the unit would probably come out in several models with other features
- included with some (hot news, eh?). The only real surprise in the story, to
- me anyway, was a list price of $2495, with the unit's introduction and first
- availability as "late fall". One source indicated that the new Mac would be
- a real challenge to the IBM RT .
-
- Alf
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: RICKBOB (8375)
- Subject: RE: MacDraw 1.9 patches (Re: Msg 8198)
- Date: 21-MAY 21:59 Bugs & Features
-
- Since this font bug has been known for quite some time, has anyone heard if a
- new version of MacDraw (1.91?) is coming out. Can the fix be all that hard?
-
- Richard Bailey
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: PEABO (8386)
- Subject: Re: HELP! with HyperMac+
- Date: 22-MAY 00:36 MUGS Online
-
- Reply to: seth@ucla-cs.ARPA (Seth Goldman) I don't see any obvious
- reasons why DA's would fail, but the fact that the problem got worse
- when you tried to use the Control Panel suggests that your Parameter
- RAM is messed up. It might be worth a try pulling out the battery for
- 5 minutes with the Mac switched off to reset the PRAM.
-
- peter
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: BRECHER (8389)
- Subject: re: Interrupt switch problems on the Mac
- Date: 22-MAY 02:56 MUGS Online
-
- To: mazur@harvard.HARVARD.EDU (Eric Mazur)
- Subject: Interrupt switch problems on the MacPlus
-
- The freeze upon pressing the Interrupt button will most likely occur when ANY
- powered-on modem is connected; I'd guess the more precise condition is any
- device asserting the CTS signal (HSKi pin). The cause is a ROM bug.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: LOFTUSBECKER (8391)
- Subject: RE: re: Interrupt switch problems on the (Re: Msg 8389)
- Date: 22-MAY 06:43 MUGS Online
-
- But only "most likely". I just hit interrupt after reading your
- message, got the debugger, pressed G, and was back on -- with full
- mouse control. Using a USRobotics Password modem.
- - Lofty
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: BRECHER (8390)
- Subject: Re: How does one make PICT resources?
- Date: 22-MAY 02:56 MUGS Online
-
- To: BELSLEY%BCVAX3.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU
- Subject: How does one make PICT resources?
-
- Cut from MacDraw, quit and run ResEdit, make a new PICT, and paste.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: DSACHS (8397)
- Subject: Re: How does one make PICT resources?
- Date: 22-MAY 21:04 MUGS Online
-
- The easiest way to make a PICT resource from a MacDraw Document is to
- select the objects you want to include, copy to the clipboard, and
- paste into the Scrapbook. The resource can then be copied from the
- Scrapbook file.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: DIHEDRAL (8396)
- Subject: List Manager
- Date: 22-MAY 21:03 Programming
-
- Can someone explain to me the "simplest" use of the list manager? That is
- displaying a list of character strings. Specifically, where does on store the
- array of strings to be displayed and how do the list manager calls access
- -these
- strings? IM talks about "theProc" as the LDEF resource ID, yet
- an examination of the LDEF=0 shows no way to get a string in there (except in
- hex) a'la a DITL in a dialog. ANY assistance would be greatly appreciated
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: INTECO (8425)
- Subject: PCB Layout Software
- Date: 23-MAY 17:49 Business Mac
-
- I am very interested to hear some experiences about PCB software on
- the Mac. I know the MacCad of Vamp Inc. form an earlier release. DOes
- someone is really using such software. What is the real use
- experience? What other packages are on the market?
-
- I have heard of several new simulation packages (analog or dig)
- Any names or expereZences ?
-
-
- ugo
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MACINTOUCH (8446)
- Subject: Hayden Software bought
- Date: 24-MAY 14:43 Mousing Around
-
- "Mass High Tech" reports in the June 8 issue that Hayden Software has
- been aquired by Spinnaker Software in a one-for-one stock trade. The
- chairman of Spinnaker claimed that Hayden was profitable last year
- with sales of $7 million. Mass High Tech gave an estimate of $20
- million for Spinnaker revenues.
-
- Ric Ford
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: PEABO (8462)
- Subject: Maybe this was asked on Usenet or Info-Mac
- Date: 25-MAY 16:00 MUGS Online
-
- I seem to recall someone asking about optical disk mastering or interactive
- training material preparation using a Mac, but I don't see it in the subject
- line of any of the messages which originated here. The person asking said he
- read it in a magazine and couldn't remember which one. Well, the May 86
- MACazine has a short review of MacVideo and Mentor which would be of interest
- I'm sure.
-
- (Maybe I dreamed it ... can you imagine dreaming about people asking questions
- in the ICONtact Forum? :-) )
-
- peter
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: BRECHER (8460)
- Subject: Purging HFS Desktop
- Date: 25-MAY 05:46 Bugs & Features
-
- PurgeIcons wasn't really designed for HFS, but you can fool it into purging an
- HFS desktop. It's using a standard file selection box to select the Desktop
- file, but the list of files is hidden from view. Therefore, it's rather like
- you're trying to select the Desktop file in the root directory while wearing a
- blindfold.
-
- (1) Make sure the current directory that would be displayed (if it
- were visible) is the root directory -- not a folder. You can either
- click the drive button to select another mounted volume (e.g., floppy)
- and then click again until you get back to the HFS volume you want to
- purge; or, on a Plus, press clover-uparrow several times to get back
- up the folder chain to the root.
-
- (2) Now the invisible file list contains the folders in the root
- directory, and the Desktop file. Of these, the one that is
- automatically selected by default -- whose name would be white on
- black if you could see the list -- is the one which comes first
- alphabetically. Usually, this is not Desktop. So select the Desktop
- file by typing "Desktop" fairly rapidly -- no long pauses between
- letters. Or just type as many letters as necessary to select Desktop
- from among the folders in the root directory whose names may begin
- with the same letter(s).
-
- (3) Click the Purge button. If you get a watch cursor for awhile, you know
- -you
- succeeded.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: PEABO (8461)
- Subject: RE: Purging HFS Desktop (Re: Msg 8460)
- Date: 25-MAY 15:53 Bugs & Features
-
- How come you have to select the Desktop file explicitly? Isn't it
- sufficient just to get to the root directory in the HFS hierarchy (I
- haven't tried this). After all, you don't have to go through any
- mumbo-jumbo when you run it in a MFS volume, even though there may be
- files alphabetically prior to the Desktop.
-
- If the problem is (on the other hand) that the WDRefNum is not in the
- SFReply record if a folder is selected instead of a file, then this is
- only a problem if there is a folder that appears first alphabetically,
- rather than a file (any file will do, not necessarily DeskTop). I had
- some difficulty in extracting the WDRefNum when I needed it recently,
- and the solution was posted by Marsh Gosnell in a recent Usenet post
- (involving SFSaveDisk and CurDirStore and the use of PBGetWDInfo).
-
- peter
-
- ------------------------------
-
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